Messaging vs. live chat: Which is right for you?

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  • Dane
    Zendesk Engineering
    Hi Lara,

    Based on the details that you have provided, it seems that you have added Facebook Messenger on the Messaging Channel. If that's the case, the normal behavior for it is it will be treated similar to live Chat. If you prefer FB Messenger channel to just be treated as a non-Live ticket, I suggest you add it in the Facebook Pages Channel instead.


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  • Lara

    Hello Everyone,

    Does anyone experience that agents receive Social Media messages via Chat Live Box?

    Is that normal or not?.. and how we can avoid this issue?

    Thank you in advance,

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  • Miranda Burford
    Zendesk Product Manager

    Hi@...,

    Agents can now send files & images to the end user. We'll make sure that the help article you flagged gets updated. Thanks!

    The ability for end users to send files & images to the agent will be coming very soon (within the next couple of months). Agree that it's a very important feature!

    - Miranda.

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  • Samantha Sussman

    I started playing around with Messaging on my zedesk account, but prefer to go back to using Chat. Even after I disable messaging in the admin center, chat is still not working how it used to before I started testing messaging. How can I get back to using chat?

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  • Lara

    Hello Dave,

    Thank you for reaching out.

    We have experienced the following issue:

    We are receiving social media messages (Like. FB, Instagram, etc) via chat box (screenshot enclosed) mixed with Live chat messages. And the agent is confused

    We understand that social media messages should be appeared as an open ticket immediately and not to go through live chat box, right?

    Any advice to avoid this from happening?

    Thank you,

    Lara

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  • Joey

    This article mentions the benefit of messaging "offering the ability to have both session-based conversationsas well asongoing, persistent chats." however, this is not really the case.

    The messaging conversations do not have an "End Chat" button in AW and thus there is no way to end the conversation (session) from the agent side. Ending the chat is what defines the session.

    Also, when transferring conversations to different groups they are not broadcasted (the green accept chat button) and thus the agents in that group are not aware that a chat is waiting for them.

    These are frustrating shortcomings.

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  • Prakruti Hindia
    Zendesk Product Manager

    Hi Thomas,

    Messaging, as a channel, is always available to the customers. It is important to set expectations and collect enough information for the agents to resolve the issue.

    For this, we can build out a flow in Flow Builder to collect more information from the end-user such as name, email or nature of the issue. (More informationhere). I would suggest capturing this information , irrespective of whether agents are online / offline.

    In order to set expectations, we should setup auto-responders. (More informationhere).

    You can create a view for your agents to pick up Messaging tickets created when the agents were offline with this condition -Channel is Messaging and Status is New

    - Prakruti

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  • Tim B.

    Hello!

    Sorry for my confusion, but I see a lot of terms thrown around in various articles and need some clarification.

    AFAIK, there is Legacy Chat, Live Chat, Web Widget (Classic), Web Widget, and Messaging.

    From what I can tell, Legacy Chat is basically out of use now.

    For the rest of it, it's confusing to know things like:

    - what's the real difference between Web Widget (Classic) and Web Widget?

    - Does Messaging fully replace Live Chat?

    There are a lot of things we like about the Web Widget (Classic) that don't exist in Web Widget, for example, like enabling customers to submit a contact form via the chat window.

    We also don't want live chat at all, but want to use the Web Widget to offer articles to users or offer a contact form. So, we should use the Web Widget (classic) and not the new Web Widget, correct?

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  • Pedro Cassian

    Hello!

    I switched over to messaging from live chat but contemplating switching back for now, we currently want to remove the name and email fields from the chat which doesn't seem to be possible in messaging, just wanted to clarify this

    thanks in advance

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  • Aron Diploma

    HiGreg Katechis, the `Zendesk.instance.messaging.showMessaging(context)` will open one active conversation by default. I want to enable the MultipleConvo where users can start multiple conversations. Similar to this:

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  • Greg Katechis
    Zendesk Developer Advocacy

    Hi Aron! If you're looking to show the message in the Zendesk SDKs, you can see the information forAndroid hereand iOS here.If you're looking for something else, could you provide some additional details?

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  • Lauren Stables

    Is it possible to have Web Widget (Classic) on a contact us page for out of hours queries but use and the live chat on all other pages? Or does it have to be one or the other?

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  • Daniel

    Hi, it says in the above table that a customers can be banned with Messaging & Sunshine with partner support. Is this explained or expanded upon anywhere?

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  • Dane
    Zendesk Engineering
    Hi Alan,

    Thank you for the clarification. As it turns out, this isn't supported in Messaging. I understand the importance of this to promote a more user friendly experience.

    I'd recommend creating aCommunity postseparately for that with your use case to help get more visibility and votes on the idea. Then, others can share their use cases to further drive demand for that feature.
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  • Jupete Manitas
    Zendesk Customer Care
    Hi Paul, thanks for writing in!

    That is correct that the agent workspace has reduced our access to customer IPs. However, you may check the post from one of our product managers here:No IPs available in Chat.Per Ayush, getting access to the IPs is still on the roadmap but not to develop this year. Per Ayush, "is still on our roadmap, but unfortunately, we've had to push development to early next year." We hope this helps Thank you!
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  • Miranda Burford
    Zendesk Product Manager

    HiSamantha Sussman,

    Thanks for your message. Can you please confirm that you have successfully disabled messaging by following theinstructions here? After doing so, please let me know if Chat is still not working as expected and provide details/screenshots of what's happening. I'd be happy to investigate further.

    Thanks,

    - Miranda.

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  • Aron Diploma

    How to enable the listing of conversations in Messaging SDK?

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  • Christine
    Zendesk Engineering
    Hi Pedro,

    You can configure the bot flow step and remove the "Name" and "Email" fields. These are just optional fields. SeeUnderstanding bot flow step typesunderAsk for detailssection for more detailed information.


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  • Alan Mark

    Hi Dane,

    No, I'm specifically looking for a Node type that I can add to the flow builder that does not require the user to enter anything at all, and instead does contextual and tag awareness like the classic widget.

    We spent engineering effort to make the context awareness work very well. So I consider this a huge gap in the messaging widget, such that I can never replace the classic widget with the messaging widget until this functionality is added.

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  • Dainne Lucena
    Zendesk Customer Care
    Hi Timothy!

    With regards to the difference between Web Widget (Classic) vs. Web Widget, you may be referring toWeb Widget (Classic)vs Web Widget Messaging.

    Both actually are the same. It's just that the Web Widget Messaging has more features. For example,Web Widget Messagingcan use Messaging. It can also be used with Answer Bot with Flow Builder.

    Messaging doesn't replace it. Technically it can upgrade it since you can use Messaging works with multiple channels. In Messaging you can have Chat, Whatsapp & Facebook Messenger. With the Web Widget classic, you can use those features too but it'll be on separate integrations. So you need to set up one channel for Whatsapp, one channel for Facebook & etc.

    If you are considering migrating to the Messaging version of the Web Widget, I would suggest checking out this article which would provide more of a comparison between the two in detail:Messaging vs. live chat: Which is right for you?

    Let me know if you have any additional questions.


    Thanks,
    Dainne Lucena | Customer Advocacy Specialist

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  • Rudolph Beaton

    HiChristine,

    Are there plans to introduce the ability to ban a customer in Messaging without having to purchase SunCo? For those of us not on Suite Enterprise, moving to Messaging isalreadya big purchase. For such a big purchase/move, we'd expect access to some core functionality (ie: banning).

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  • Gabriel
    Zendesk Customer Care
    Hi Lauren!

    I hope all is well! Unfortunately, natively that is not possible. If you are using the Classic Widget for the website or Help Centre, the features enabled for one page will be replicated for all the others.

    I hope this answers your question!


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  • Samantha Sussman

    Hi Miranda-

    Yes I have disabled messaging. I am still not seeing the chat dashboard behave as it used to. For example, I don't see anything on the Visitors page, and there is a message at the top that says "Your account is on the Zendesk Agent Workspace. You can see incoming and currently served chats on this page." However the Zendesk Agent Workspace doesn't show site visitors like the Visitors page used to. I used to use this page to manually send messages to certain site visitors, but I can no longer do that.

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  • Hiedi Kysther
    Zendesk Customer Care
    Hi Samantha,

    Based on the prompt you are getting in your Chat Dashboard, you are most likely still in Agent Workspace. After disabling Messaging please disable Agent Workspace in your account. Here's how you can disable it:

    1. InAdmin Center, click theWorkspacesicon () in the sidebar, then selectAgent workspace > Agent interface
    2. In theAgent workspacesection, deselect theEnable the Agent Workspacesetting.
    3. Saveyour changes.When the workspace is successfully disabled, a warning message appears


    For more detailed steps on how to disable Agent Workspace, you may check it here:Disable Agent Workspace

    I hope this helps!
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  • Fiona

    Hi! I'm considering switching over to Messaging but trying to understand all the implications first.

    I'm unsure what the below means and I couldn't find any reference to it when doing a search of the Help Center:

    Multi-user chat Yes Yes (multi-agent only) Yes (multi-user)

    Also, I think this one is out of date:

    Proactive messages (client side, e.g. website) Yes No

    I saw that it's now possible to do proactive messages?

    Thanks

    Fiona

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  • The Scout Association

    Hi, I can't find any documentation about whisper mode beyond the mention in this article?

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  • Audrey Ann Cipriano
    Zendesk Customer Care

    HiErin Dunkleewelcome to our Community! :)

    Yes, you are correct. Once you have the Sunshine Conversations, you can start setting up theWeb messenger widget.Here's also a list of the Web Messenger'scapabilitiesthat you can build with Sunshine :)

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  • Wyze Support Bot

    Is IP address tracking any different using Messaging vs Chat? The switch over to Agent Workspace has reduced our access to customer IPs for fraud purposes.

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  • Christine
    Zendesk Engineering
    Hi Rudolph,

    We appreciate your input! Thanks!
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  • Milton Lobo

    That's what I was after, thanksMiranda Burford:)

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